Quite Frankly...

...watching this video makes me hope the Israelis bomb the living crud out of the Arabs. God help me, it's how I honestly feel. I have stopped mysef from saying it so many times.  Can't do it anymore. 

They aimed at 15 and 16 year old yeshiva boys.

Via Oceanguy:

"The society that preaches martyrdom to children, that rejoices in the street over the deaths of students huddled over sacred texts, that praises death over life – this society has become Amalek."

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[Ymarsakar]

This is why we need warriors and train up cold hard killers. For they are our only defense against the barbarians.

The Left worries about us becoming more like our enemies. If we don't, we won't be around anymore. That is the simple lesson of nature. Change through adaptation or become extinct. Leftists believe they are above natural laws, however.

Civilization seeks to protect their children and delay their introduction to the real world. Too much of that has convinced many adults in Western civilization, including in Israel, that we, also, can delay our entrance into the "real world" of real violence done by real fanatics and killers.

[Gail]

I agree. I have said the same - what good are the ideals of Western civilization if we are all dead and gone?

I would like to believe that self-defense doesn't turn us into the barbarians who attack us. We can defend ourselves and still believe in caring about our fellow man.

[Ymarsakar]

I would like to believe that self-defense doesn't turn us into the barbarians who attack us. We can defend ourselves and still believe in caring about our fellow man.

The answer to that question comes through the study of military history and tactics.

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Yet Osama bin Laden has made a fatal miscalculation. Like everybody who scoffs at the perceived laxity of Western democracies, these murderers have woken an enormous power from its slumber, and retribution will shortly be both decisive and terrible. The bloody wages of this ignorance of the power of a free people aroused are age-old and unmistakable - Xerxes’s 60,000 washed ashore at Salamis, 80,000 of the Sultan’s best floating in the waters off Lepanto, 100,000 lost in the streets of Tokyo.

Western nations at war, from the Greeks to the present, are not weak but enormously lethal - far out of proportion to their relatively small population and territories. This power is not an accident of geography, much less attributable to natural resources or genes, but rather found in its very ideas and values. The foundations of Western culture - freedom, civic militarism, capitalism, individualism, constitutional government and secular rationalism - when applied to the battlefield have always resulted in carnage for their adversaries.

Such ideals were apparent almost immediately this time aroung - with the decision of doomed airline passengers to storm their hijackers; with Congress freely voting vast sums of capital for military operations; individual rescue workers, aided by sophisticated and huge machines, on their own initiative devising ad hoc methods of saving victims and restoring calm to a devastated city.

Neither the genius of Hannibal nor the diseases of Africa nor the fanaticism of the Mahdists have stopped Western armies. Occasional lapses such as last week’s have prompted not capitulation, but responses far more deadly than their enemies’ temporary victories.

-Victor Davis Hanson

The question isn't whether we will turn into the enemies of humanity that we fight, but whether we will become better than our enemies. "But better" does not mean "better at navel gazing".

In a way, people don't want us to become as good as our enemies at killing because they think it will turn into an endless cycle of violence, exactly what they think Israel-Palestine is in. A kind of tit for tat. My view is that we're better at violence than such folks, which means any cycle of violence that gets created will be broken by us, if only because all the enemies start dying.

They also don't want us to become better at killing than our enemies, since they see killing as the source of the problem, rather than the choices made by enemies of humanity.

All of this creates a philosophical conflict. Since to survive and to prosper, one must be better than one's competitor in all things under the natural world. Economy, intelligence, physical fitness, wisdom, knowledge, skills, and yes, violence as well.

A utopian world, however, believes that it can pre-select what people need, contrary to what the laws of nature or God dictates.

[Gail]

"They also don't want us to become better at killing than our enemies, since they see killing as the source of the problem, rather than the choices made by enemies of humanity."

Yes, agreed.

The more efficient we are and the less we delay in doing what has to be done, the fewer people die and suffer. The atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually spared lives and Japanese suffering in what might otherwise have been a long, brutal war.

We don't want to see ourselves as being brutal, we don't want to BE brutal. As Golda Meir once said, the Israelis may forgive the Arabs for killing their sons, but they will never forgive them for forcing the Israelis to kill the Arabs' sons.

It is the epitome of evil to turn peace lovers into killers.

[Jack]

It is time to dig in our heels and show them that we are not going to go silently into the night.